Thursday, October 14, 2004

From a guest blogger Comment:

BOYCOTT SINCLAIR - A 3-STEP PLAN

See the plan up close @:
http://www.angelfire.com/blog2/boycottsinclair/index.htmlStep

Step 1: Protest - Show up at your local Sinclair station on Monday, 10/18/2004 at 6:00pm, per trooth's great site! If you can't, call them all day long.

Step 2: Sick-out - Call your local news, sports, or weather celeb and urge them to call in sick on 10/22/2004 to protest Sinclair's illegal action.

Step 3: Disinvest - During the week of 10/18/2004, check out your 401(k). You probably have a fund there that is an investor in Sinclair. Sell it and buy something else, if you can. Check the website for the list of funds.

Thanks for the great stuff!


109 Comments:

At October 14, 2004 at 1:05 PM, Blogger JBLIII said...

If this is really going to be successful, then the plan needs to be fleshed out considerably. Just showing up at the local Sinclair site might make us feel good, but it's not going to make a significant impact.

Here are my suggestions:

1) Change the time and date of the protest. At the very least, hold it after Oct. 19, when "Going Upriver" is available on DVD. That film is the perfect counterbalance to "Stolen Honor" because it is pro-Kerry and deals with exactly the same time period. Why not arrange to have free public showings of "Going Upriver" somewhere at the same time "Stolen Honor" is being broadcast? (This has the added benefit of falling into the same news cycle, thereby diluting whatever coverage is generated by "Stolen Honor".)

2) If you're determined to go with next Monday at 6:00 (which we may have to do; here in Columbus, for instance, the Dispatch has already run a story saying when and where the protest will be!), then there needs to be a coherent message. The first question any reporter is going to ask is: "What are you trying to accomplish?" If there's not a good consistent message this is just going to come off like an angry gaggle of protesters.

What are some possible messages?

a) "We want Sinclair to drop the movie; if they won't, we want WSYX to buck their corporate bosses and say no."

b) "We want Sinclair to accept Paul Alexander's offer to cut a version of his pro-Kerry documentary 'Brothers in Arms' to be shown immediately after 'Stolen Honor'."

3) Once a message is agreed to (ideally by all the groups protesting every Sinclair station nationwide), then we need to work out appropriate tactics. Here are some possibilities, each of which is telegenic enough that other media will cover the event:

a) Public showing of equivalent pro-Kerry propaganda. With a video projector and long enough extension cords/generators, our movie could be broadcast onto the station's building. Turn them into a screen for our message, just like they are being a screen for Sinclair's message.

b) Highlight the boycott. Display prominently the names of Sinclair advertisers--particularly local advertisers--and announce a formal boycott.

c) Highlight our allies. Invite representatives from the local and national companies who have pulled their advertising to come and receive some kind of public award (flowers? trophies? seals of approval?), recognizing them for their public service.

or, of course, there's always...

d) Mass arrests. I wouldn't recommend this one, but you could hold a sit-in or similar blockade and get arrested for trespassing. It'll probably generate media coverage. However, the coverage probably won't be positive.

 
At October 14, 2004 at 1:35 PM, Blogger trooth said...

i think the best message is "equal time!", but that may just be me.

there's no reason to limit this only to monday, but i think monday is a great start date.

i recommend organizing LOCALLY.

 
At October 14, 2004 at 3:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's another way to protest...sending emails to a comprehensive list of newspapers in the cities where Sinclair does business. Quick, easy, and not incompatible with other forms of protest.

http://newsgobbler.typepad.com/boycott_networks/

 
At October 14, 2004 at 8:48 PM, Blogger JBLIII said...

I met this evening with "UA for Kerry," a group of Kerry supporters here in Columbus. (Check out their website here. They wanted to respond to the local Sinclair stations in some effective way. Here's what we came up with:

1) We will continue to call and email the Sinclair advertisers. UA for Kerry will set up a webpage with the necessary info and talking points.

2) Rather than protest on Monday, we'll hold a counter-programming event on Friday, Oct. 22 at the same time the local Sinclair stations are airing "Stolen Honor." We're tentatively looking at having a free public showing of "Going Upriver" or "Brothers in Arms." The specifics as to where the showing will be are yet to be worked out. We will collect donations for local veterans groups such as Disabled American Veterans.

3) This will be both a media event (local press will be invited and encouraged to come), and a campaign-building event. We'll encourage undecided voters to come see for themselves why we are supporting John Kerry as an optimistic, forward-looking leader (in contrast to Sinclair which is following the Bush-Cheney campaign of negative, mud-slinging politics.

 
At October 15, 2004 at 8:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please post a list of all advertisers who advertise on the Sinclair Broadcasting Group's stations. I will boycott every product line on the list and I think all Americans who would like to see this kind of vile corruption taken off the air will also boycott them. You have to hit them where it counts - in the pocketbook.

 
At October 15, 2004 at 10:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's the ADVERTISERS on Sinclair Broadcasting that need to be informed that they will be boycotted if Sinclair airs 'Stolen Honor'. Several national organizations are willing to participate in this boycott. Please list major advertisers on Sinclair.

 
At October 16, 2004 at 4:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you Anti-Sinclair, Anti-Bush, Anti-Republican people are such sad F**KS, it's pathetic. Kerry ain't no war hero, my hubby almost died for his Purple Heart and certainly didn't get it from a little bit of shrapnel in his arm. I have lived with terrorism in my country for 28 yrs before moving to the USA, I walked beside a trash can 10 minutes before it blew up, you Yanks have no idea what's in store for you if terrorists come to this shore and start blowing up malls, train stations and schools with kids in them and you'll get no coded warnings like we did. Kerry's history when it comes Military Weapons and Intelligence is frightening and you want HIM to protect YOU. God, what a joke! You have no idea what having him in power will do this country's security and military, one thing's for sure, with Kerry as President you may as well welcome the terrorists with open arms. Kerry is communist. Once a coomunist, always a communist. And all you can think of to do is BOYCOTT SINCLAIR. How sad & Pathetic you are. If Kerry wins and I were you, I'd start looking over my shoulder and watching my back, VERY CLOSELY, VERY CLOSELY INDEED and MAY GOD HELP US ALL.

 
At October 16, 2004 at 4:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you Anti-Sinclair, Anti-Bush, Anti-Republican people are such sad jerks, it's pathetic. Kerry ain't no war hero, my hubby almost died for his Purple Heart and certainly didn't get it from a little bit of shrapnel in his arm. I have lived with terrorism in my country for 28 yrs before moving to the USA, I walked beside a trash can 10 minutes before it blew up, you Yanks have no idea what's in store for you if terrorists come to this shore and start blowing up malls, train stations and schools with kids in them and you'll get no coded warnings like we did. Kerry's history when it comes Military Weapons and Intelligence is frightening and you want HIM to protect YOU. God, what a joke! You have no idea what having him in power will do this country's security and military, one thing's for sure, with Kerry as President you may as well welcome the terrorists with open arms. Kerry is communist. Once a coomunist, always a communist. And all you can think of to do is BOYCOTT SINCLAIR. How sad & Pathetic you are. If Kerry wins and I were you, I'd start looking over my shoulder and watching my back, VERY CLOSELY, VERY CLOSELY INDEED and MAY GOD HELP US ALL.

 
At October 17, 2004 at 11:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Protesting' en mass outside of a staion will only draw more attention to the broadcast. That's what the idea of convential protest does. It draws peoples' attention to something they may not otherwise be aware of. It draws peoples' attention to a cause. I think the traditional picket line is not the proper response to this electronic media attack on our freedoms.

What will the protest line accomplish? Free publicity for Sinclair and it will entice more curious undecided voters to watch this 'controversial' (propaganda) film. That's exactly what they want. Of course the other networks who are owned by fewer and fewer corporations are 'reporting' on this daily. The more press it gets the better it is for Sinclair.

This is the most important election of our lives and possibly in history. I don't know about you but I'm not going to waste my time standing around holding a sign, advertising something I don't want people to watch. Like many others' out there, I am not invested in any of their sponsors, nor do I have the funds to do so. Neither am I near one of their stations but I am still concerned about losing more of my rights everyday and I'm tired of the way we usualy allow the corporations to dictate what 'we' can and cannot do, but the rules do not apply to themselves.

We need to counter their propaganda with links to the truth and information using the net as never before. Surely someone out there has the capabilities to spam for a good cause. We need to carpet the net with the truth.

We need to make people aware of where to find the truth. Sorry to say, but our nation has been transformed into flocks of sheep and the real rulers of our nation, the corporations, like it that way.

Email, blog, spam, talk about these ideas and sites and others you may know of:

1. Watch 'Decision 2004' on PBS. You'll all gain a new appreciation for MR. Kerry and what he has done for our country.

2. Check out www.linktv.com and find the station on your satelite dish. It is a very progressive and truthful look at the world as you may have never seen it before. They operate solely on private donations with no corporate sponsorship. They are even more independant than PBS. There is a special report about 9/11 and the Iraq war starting on Sunday evening 10/17/04 and playing several times afterward.

3. Listen to www.airamericaradio.com online or your local stations.

4. Spread the word about 'Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism ', 'UNCOVERED: THE WAR ON IRAQ' and
'Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry'.

5.There's also a very disturbing speech by Bill Moyers one of the nations most respected news men. See some of it here: http://www.peace.ca/moyersvideo.htm

6.Also view the speeches and/or forward the text from Bill Moyers and other progressive thinkers to everyone you know from here: http://www.demos-usa.org/page118.cfm

I didn't know much about Bill Moyers except for his news shows. Now that I've seen his speeches and know what he stands for, I have amuch greater respect for him and I know that I am not the only one that is greatly concerned about our future.

 
At October 17, 2004 at 11:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

{All you Anti-Sinclair, Anti-Bush, Anti-Republican people are such sad F**KS, it's pathetic.}

This is a prime example of how a power hungry, greedy, desperate adminstration speaks to anyone with a different point of view.

There are many reports of how they use cruel, vicious lies to de-mean the rights of true americans. They spout their lies as if they think we will believe them as easily as they did.

I feel for anyone and their families that had/has to endure the hell of war but that is no excuse to call names and try to be-little someones' right to have an diference of opinion.

SHAME ON YOU and if the people you support has your same ideas, SHAME ON THEM.

 
At October 17, 2004 at 1:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the supporter of the war-hawk regime:
First of all, I personally feel sorry for anyone who has to be involved in a war or any type of violence. But why do you bother to post on a sight that clearly does not share your point of view? Do you think that by demonstrating the tactics the Bush regime uses to try to frighten and coerce the public, we will give in to the obvious murder of the truth and say "Oh I guess we were wrong"? EDUCATE yourself...

A. You say we are Anti-this and that. We are Pro-democracy! Another example of how Bush tries to make people feel they are not patriotic just becaue they don't agree with the way he is running this nation into the ground.

B. How do you think Kerry is a Communist? He or his Grandfather didn't support the Communists' like Bushs' Grandfather (Prescott Bush) supported and profitted from the Nazis'! http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

C. It does not matter how a person was wounded to recieve a purple heart. Bush says someone is not patriotic if they don't support the war... even if we support our troops. So, if that is true you are not patriotic for not supporting Kerry which fought in Vietnam, whether you supported the Vietnam war or not.
The fact is: both Bush and Cheney dodged the Vietnam draft. Bush, by 'serving' in the National Guard (we all know that fairy tale) and Cheney by playing the system in other ways. (watch "The Unauthorized Biography of Dick Cheney' here: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7046.htm) 'CBC World' is an independant and respected Canandian TV Station.


D. You say "(we)have no idea what's in store for you if terrorists come to this shore and start blowing up malls, train stations and schools with kids in them and you'll get no coded warnings like we did." Coded warnings? Are you saying Bush got coded warnings before 9/11? Hmmm. I wouldn't call the english language a 'code'. I guess you have to consider who is reading it but, since Bush doesn't read, everything probably seems like a code to him. The longer we have to look into what has happened in the Bush era the more strange and concerning things we find.

E. "with Kerry as President you may as well welcome the terrorists with open arms." No, that would be Dick Cheney hugging Saddam, and the leaders of the rest of the 'axis of evil' when he was running Halliburton. To Cheney and his other partners (including the Bushs' and the Bin Ladens) it's more like the "axis of profit".

I could go on but I'm laughing too hard!! lol

 
At October 17, 2004 at 1:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the supporter of the war-hawk regime:
First of all, I personally feel sorry for anyone who has to be involved in a war or any type of violence. But why do you bother to post on a sight that clearly does not share your point of view? Do you think that by demonstrating the tactics the Bush regime uses to try to frighten and coerce the public, we will give in to the obvious murder of the truth and say "Oh I guess we were wrong"? EDUCATE yourself...

A. You say we are Anti-this and that. We are Pro-democracy! Another example of how Bush tries to make people feel they are not patriotic just becaue they don't agree with the way he is running this nation into the ground.

B. How do you think Kerry is a Communist? He or his Grandfather didn't support the Communists' like Bushs' Grandfather (Prescott Bush) supported and profitted from the Nazis'! http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

C. It does not matter how a person was wounded to recieve a purple heart. Bush says someone is not patriotic if they don't support the war... even if we support our troops. So, if that is true you are not patriotic for not supporting Kerry which fought in Vietnam, whether you supported the Vietnam war or not.
The fact is: both Bush and Cheney dodged the Vietnam draft. Bush, by 'serving' in the National Guard (we all know that fairy tale) and Cheney by playing the system in other ways. (watch "The Unauthorized Biography of Dick Cheney' here: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7046.htm) 'CBC World' is an independant and respected Canandian TV Station.


D. You say "(we)have no idea what's in store for you if terrorists come to this shore and start blowing up malls, train stations and schools with kids in them and you'll get no coded warnings like we did." Coded warnings? Are you saying Bush got coded warnings before 9/11? Hmmm. I wouldn't call the english language a 'code'. I guess you have to consider who is reading it but, since Bush doesn't read, everything probably seems like a code to him. The longer we have to look into what has happened in the Bush era the more strange and concerning things we find.

E. "with Kerry as President you may as well welcome the terrorists with open arms." No, that would be Dick Cheney hugging Saddam, and the leaders of the rest of the 'axis of evil' when he was running Halliburton. To Cheney and his other partners (including the Bushs' and the Bin Ladens) it's more like the "axis of profit".

I could go on but I'm laughing too hard!! lol

 
At October 18, 2004 at 7:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get a grip and demand that your party be representitive of mainstream America. Field quailified candidates that reflect clearly the American vision.

We need a viable Democratic party not one jerry rigged to leverage the discontent and misunderstanding of the weak, and disconnected.

Why can't we work to raise up those who's votes we covet instead of allowing then to be expolited by the self serving liberals like Kerry who pretends to serve the middle of the road when he clearly is west of left?

 
At October 18, 2004 at 11:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rather than selling shares of Sinclair, you should BUY shares. This gives you the right, as a shareholder, to protest any policies that affect the company's bottom line.

 
At October 18, 2004 at 3:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Suggest to all that you let Sinclair know that you are activating your V-Chip, the parental controll, or any thing your TV has to PERMANENTLY prevent everyone in your household from watching a Sinclair statement. With this and a boycot on advertisers, as well as other measures, should really hurt them.

Bonnie, Maryland

 
At October 18, 2004 at 7:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the A,B,C,D,E Person, sorry can't think of anything better to call you:
Here's my response, I thought you deserved one.

"But why do you bother to post on a sight that clearly does not share your point of view?"
Because I can, get over it.........

"We are Pro-democracy!"
Pro-Socialist you mean, just look at what Kerry wants to do to the Health Care System here, Nationalised Health Care doesn't work, just look at Great Britain. Why on earth does he think it will work here.

"How do you think Kerry is a Communist?"
Because he was giving aid & comfort to the North Vietnamese, coveting the Viet-Cong. All the communist leaders want him to win the election. Figure it out for yourself, it's not too difficult for your poor liberal, socialist mind. Say no more.

"It does not matter how a person was wounded to recieve a purple heart."
Yes it does, Kerrys purple heart for a cut on the arm and putting himself in for it which allowed for him to go home where other soldiers wanted to stay when they were eligible to go home demeans other mens Purples Hearts who have almost died and carried on fighting alongside their oppos. Kerry couldn't get out fast enough and then behaved atrociously when he got home. He didn't deserve at least one of them. Shame on him!

"The fact is: both Bush and Cheney dodged the Vietnam draft."
Let's not mention the fact that your Democratic hero Clinton REALLY dodged the draft by running away to England to go to College. There's your true draft dodger. At least Bush served, are you demeaning the National Guard. We have great People in Iraq who serve in the Nationl Guard and have died serving their country, Shame on you!


"You say "(we)have no idea what's in store for you if terrorists come to this shore and start blowing up malls, train stations and schools with kids in them and you'll get no coded warnings like we did." Coded warnings? Are you saying Bush got coded warnings before 9/11? Hmmm. I wouldn't call the english language a 'code'. I guess you have to consider who is reading it but, since Bush doesn't read, everything probably seems like a code to him. The longer we have to look into what has happened in the Bush era the more strange and concerning things we find."
You obviously didn't read my text very carefully, if you had you would have figured out that I was talking about the IRA. The Ira gave coded warnings to the British Government or local police before their bombs went off, not that they did much good. I clearly stated that I was from another country and that I had lived with terrorism for 28 yrs before moving to the USA. I NEVER stated that Bush got a coded warning. He didn't. Read my text buddy, learn to read English properly, it was quite simple what I said and was even simpler to interpret, how the hell did you interpret that Bush got coded warnings........What planet are you living on. The one where YOU WANT Bush to fail, because if that's the case that means you want more soldiers to die, more Iraqis to die, more Afghans to die and terrorists to hurt & kill more Americans, Shame on you again!

"I could go on but I'm laughing too hard!! lol"
My text was pretty serious, I'm not laughing. It's a shame that you are because terrorism is serious and as I said before, you have no idea what it will be like when the bombs start going off and you have to start looking over your shoulder and watching your back everywhere you go. You will be suspicious of every single strange person who crosses your path. Fortunately, the chances are they will be Arab looking, but in Great Britain we couldn't tell, the IRA looked just like us. The Irish & the Britishlook alike. I lost two friends in a bomb that went off, I'm not laughing, I pray everyday that this great country that I wish to become a citizen of and have dual British/USA citizenship will not have it's citizens suffer the same way we did for decades from terrorism. It's certainly not funny and I am not laughing.

 
At October 19, 2004 at 10:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Right winf Radical:

I don't have time to keep breaking down your rhetoric. So I'll just say a couple things.

I never said Clinton was my hero. My Dad is

I did read your text several times carefully,before I decided to comment on it because I believe everyone has the right to voice their opinions. The problem is, nothing you wrote was very clear. You never said anything about what country you are from or any other details you claim I didn't see.

I believe it is a pattern of the right wing radicals to say things that are so vague that when they are called out on it they can claim that it means somtehing else, or that they didnt say it all... typical.

I lived in Norway for two years. There are many, many peoples there from 'Persia'. Theya all say they are from persia rather than Iran or Iraq or Turkey etc. Most if not all of them were planning on moving to USA when they get their Norwegian visas. I found them to be a very social people and I had no suspicions of them.

I refuse to be made to fear. I did not mean to belittle yours or anyones situation, but for someone to spue such obvious hatred for someone eles right to voice an oppinion is obviously following a doctrine which I will have no part of. Amen and adios

 
At October 20, 2004 at 9:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are so full of hate for anyone that doesn't share your opinions so in my opinion you need to go back to Britain and STAY there. We DON'T want people like you in the United States anyway. Isn't that what your good old boy Bush is trying to supposely prevent is the spread of hate? Boy would he (Bush) be proud of you.

There is a little dirt under every BUSH.

 
At October 21, 2004 at 1:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To Right winf Radical:"
Well you are obviously a youngster because you whole text was full of spelling mistakes. I also didn't spue hatred, I was telling it how it is.
"I never said Clinton was my hero. My Dad is"

I assumed Clinton was your Hero because he is to every single one of my Democratic friends and most other Democratic people, hence your father.
"I did read your text several times carefully,before I decided to comment on it because I believe everyone has the right to voice their opinions. The problem is, nothing you wrote was very clear. You never said anything about what country you are from or any other details you claim I didn't see."
I never said Bush had a coded warning but you seemed to infer that. By the way how did you infer that from what I had written? There is only one other Country that has lived with terrorism OFFICIALLY for decades (40 years+) other than Britain and that is Israel so I figured you would take what I was saying seriously and deduce it for yourself. Only the people that have experience of living in either of these countries have any idea of what living with terrorism long term can do to ones life. Personally I think Israel had it and still does 1,000 times worse than GB ever did or will or the USA ever will.

"I believe it is a pattern of the right wing radicals to say things that are so vague that when they are called out on it they can claim that it means somtehing else, or that they didnt say it all... typical."
I wasn't vague at all, (only about what country I was from) unless you want to split hairs but that just shows how childish you are. I can be way more explicit if you like. Would you like to know what a Hotel looks like after it has been blown up with the leader of your country in it. Would you like to know whats left of a childs body after a bomb has blown it up just because the mother was in a shopping mall with child at the wrong place at the wrong time. Would you like to know what it's like to feel real relief after knowing you personally were 10 minutes away from being the next bomb victim, because I do. 9/11 is but a distant memory for most Americans, you all indignantly throw your hands up in the air saying "Who Me!" in shock like you all care, but most of you have forgotten the horrors of that day. The further away from that the more distant the memories. Well I hope we never forget. Because when people forget they become complacent, all I'm doing is telling people what can happen if the terrorists come here and and start behaving like they do in Israel and they could and you all bury your heads in the sand and call me a radical. Sas, so sad.

"I lived in Norway for two years. There are many, many peoples there from 'Persia'. Theya all say they are from persia rather than Iran or Iraq or Turkey etc. Most if not all of them were planning on moving to USA when they get their Norwegian visas. I found them to be a very social people and I had no suspicions of them."
What's that got to do with anything, I never said all arabs were terrorists. That's shallow. But also Norway wasn't being blown up every day, Grow up. If it was, you would be suspicious, and don't lie to yourself or to me. If Arab looking terrorists were all over Norway you would have looking over your shoulder, and the reason you weren't is because as I said before Norway wasn't being threatened or blown up. the kids weren't being targeted.

"I refuse to be made to fear."
You should be scared, there is a healthy kind fear that keeps you alive and aware. My husband was a copfor 15 yrs before he was nearly killed and medically dischared. He told me that he was scared everyday that he went out onto the job, his fear saved his life. If he had been arrogant and had thought it would never happen to him, then I'd be a widow today.
"but for someone to spue such obvious hatred for someone eles right to voice an oppinion is obviously following a doctrine which I will have no part of "
I don't spue hatred for anyone elses rights, but you have a double standard and Democrats/Liberals are famous for it. That's what I can't abide. This whole website is about Boycotting a Company which is stupid because you can turn the TV off. The guy is making no money from it, he filmed it from all his OWN money and if you all you guys on this site had watched an interview with the show maker, he had offered Kerry a full 45 minutes of airtime to rebutt all and everything on this news show. 1/3rd of this news show is Kerrys own words and the other 2/3rds are POW's, what is the big deal. It is fair and balanced because Kerry was offered the same amount of time. It's not Sinclair's fault that Kerry turned them down. You people need to get off the hate wagon that you're accusing me of. I didn't kick up a fuss over Farenheit 9/11 which was a bit one sided and didn't air some of the interviews that Moore had filmed because it didn't gel with what his views were. This is silly.
Now onto the person spewing hate to me:
"You are so full of hate for anyone that doesn't share your opinions so in my opinion you need to go back to Britain and STAY there. We DON'T want people like you in the United States anyway. Isn't that what your good old boy Bush is trying to supposely prevent is the spread of hate? Boy would he (Bush) be proud of you."
There is a little dirt under every BUSH."
Here's the pot calling the kettle black. As I said before I am telling it like it is. What do you want me to do, sugar coat it for you all, tell you that nothing could ever happen over here and that all Liberals are wonderful non-idealogues. You don't know what Socialised Health care is like, I do. You don't know what having mostly all Government run programs is like, I do. You don't know what it is like to have a private train network that was working and making a profit and then have the quivalent to the Democrats get in power and make it Governemtn run and destroy it to the point where it no longer makes a profit and the trains break down, crash and run late. Now the Government has made a U-Turn and has Privatetised the trains again. You see I did live with a Soclialist Governemt for a long time and with the affects of their programs from Socialist Governments of long past, it doesn't work, I beg your pardon if I don't share your views and I prefer the private way of doing things. I just prefer smaller Government interference, private healthecare, private pensions etc...... While Margaret Thatcher was in power in GB (equiv to Republicans) GB was at her most profitable and prospective years, we were at our best in recent years. Now Blair wants to cut back our Military at a time of war and take a gamble that the troops won't be needed anywhere else, stupid, stupid, stupid.
When you spue hate to me, a Permanent Resident, who can unofficially get dual-citizenship you don't do much for your relations with foreigners. So far in my time in this Country the people who have made me feel uncomtable have been the Liberals, because I have had shit smeared on my car because of my hubbys stickers etc... I would never behave like that. In this area there has been more Anti-Bush vandalism than Kerry, 1,000 fold. That says it all plus my own experiences. The people that turn off Foreigners are people like you, not Bush and his followers.

 
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